Diego Sanchez Injured, Now Thiago Alves vs.Josh Koscheck

by themachiavellian on Oct 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT Comment 43 comments

Fronted by Kid Nate

Caught it at MMA Weekly.

He's out with the notorious "undisclosed injury".

No replacement has been identified to fight Thiago Alves, but Josh Koscheck's name is floating about, which would leave Yoshiyuki Yoshida opponentless again after Karo's last-minute withdrawal. So the already-complicated 170-lbs division is now fubar, especailly if this remains a #1-Contender match.

Although Sanchez did not release any comments, I imagine they would resemble this:

Diego-sanchez_medium

Agreed, Mr. Nightmare, agreed

UPDATE: Zack Gobie pointed out in the comments that Sherdog confirmed Alves vs. Koscheck - thanks for the assist.

UPDATE 2: (By Kid Nate)

More details from Sherdog:

Sanchez representative Jeff Clark told Sherdog.com that the injury was sustained in a training session last week, and what was originally thought to be a ruptured spleen turned out to be damage to his ribs, possibly to an intercostal muscle or cartilage.

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That is so disappointing. This card is seriously weak. I don’t really consider Anderson destroying yet another overmatched opponent in the 1st round as main event type status. And now the co-main event is off the broadcast.

This PPV is not gonna get many buys between the weak economy and the now very weak card IMO..

by lbk on Oct 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It’s been talked about many times that a weak economy can help buys, as a few friends chipping in is a pretty cheap night of entertainment. And while maybe not the most “ZOMG FLASHY” card, Silva/Cote, Kos/Alves and Sherk/Griffin is a solid night of cards.

by LiuLang on Oct 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fights, even.

by LiuLang on Oct 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Silva/Cote, Kos/Alves and Sherk/Griffin is a solid night of cards

I agree.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Oct 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed!

I don’t really see how people can say that this card is weak with those 3 fights. Especially with Maynard/Clementi being bumped to the main card and the possibility of Franco/Aurelio or Sell/Burkman being aired depending on time.

by steveoc24 on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some people say every card is weak. It’s the cool attitude to have.
Personally I find the less marquee type cards to have the better overall fights simply due to there being less anticipation and build up – you can just sit back and actually enjoy it unfold.

by Benicio on Oct 13, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This comment is week. I predict that there won’t be a lot of replies. Especially since, given the week economy, most people will be hard at work trying not to lose their place in the bread line.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 14, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hilarious. finally someone who doesnt think what the media tells him to. props to you good man
voting?
eh, dont tell me, odds are from the poles i wont like what you say

by beersnbroads on Oct 15, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One thing I can tell already is that we won’t agree on things like spelling, capitalization, punctuation or grammar. :-)

Also: sarcasm. You should really look that one up. It’ll make these comments a lot funnier. ;-)

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 17, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I flatly don’t buy the “bad economy is good for PPV buys” theory, but it is an interesting concept pushed by the White/Fertita brain trust.

by Cannon Jacques on Oct 13, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the last thing I would want is for more people gathering up and pitching in on PPV’s when the economy is bad.

no matter what, people are going to go out have their entertainment no matter where the economy is at.. its the only way for people to keep sane..

by steveoc24 on Oct 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Care to explain why you don’t buy it? To me, it’s simple math. For me and my wife to go to movies and supper is probably anywhere from 60-80 bones.

When I have peeps come over for UFC, it’s generally five or ten for the PPV, five for pizza or whatev and then a few beer. A night in with friends is a lot cheaper than other common alternatives.

I obviously don’t have data, but I doubt most PPV buyers are sitting at home, by themselves watching it. The cost of going out and doing more expensive would seem beneficial to what seems to be a cheaper alternative.

by LiuLang on Oct 13, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s definitely cheaper than dinner and a movie unless you order off the dollar menu and rent.

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by Richard Wade on Oct 13, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I totally understand what you are saying. Like you, I don’t have data to support my position. I haven’t seen any studies of the state of the economy on PPV buys. A PPV event just doesn’t strike me as something that’s necessary. If you’re substituting it for something more expensive, that’s one thing. In your scenario, you’re going to do something in terms of entertainment, so the event with friends is the most economically sensible. The way I’m looking at it; entertainment is achieved through disposable income. Generally when disposable income decreases, entertainment decreases. In other words, people forgo, or at least cut back on, entertainment.

Really, this theory’s validity probably varies with the extent of economic hardship. If times are somewhat financially tough, you may substitute a PPV with friends for dinner and a movie. In an extremely tough financial situation, you may have to cut out most entertainment – including a UFC event. It may turn out that PPV buy numbers aren’t affected significantly by this economic downturn at all. I don’t know. It just seems a stretch to say that a bad economy = more buys.

by Cannon Jacques on Oct 13, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didnt boxing and movie studios flourish during the ‘Great Depression’? When times are tough people need their entertainment as a release from their problems.

by Benicio on Oct 14, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The biggest issue I have with it is that it seems to not take into account that there are free alternatives on cable. I have nearly 300 channels available to me now. That’s 300 entertainment options filled with movies, TV dramas and comedies, sports, news, etc that was not an option for people living in the Great Depression. For the cost of a single UFC PPV, I can get an additional 60-70 channels for 4 months.

Besides, the whole “friends can come over! better than closed circuit!” thing was the justification for boxing PPVs being a good deal for the consumer. Just look at what the long term effects there were.

by D.Capitated on Oct 14, 2008 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

will be interesting to see how things unfold regardless.

by Benicio on Oct 14, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you’re stretching in order to make a point. I highly doubt on a Saturday night people are thinking, right before they buy a PPV, “jeez, I sure could get a lot of cable for the next couple months for this money.” You’d have to be spread pretty damn thin to start making those decisions, especially when I’m talking about having people over and splitting costs.

And that’s what I’m specifically talking about. Making that decision to stay in and spend less as opposed to going out.

by LiuLang on Oct 14, 2008 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sporting events of a certain magnitude will always draw viewers, regardless of what’s on the comedy channel. It’s the ‘live factor’ I guess. Something to come together around and ‘be a part of’.

The dollars for sharing a PPV are low compared to other things. And if, and that seems to be universally true, people decide that they need (mind you) to be entertained, especially since times are harder than normal, this is a great outlet. Cheap and violent. Throw in beer and you’ve got yourself a winner.

by ununkvadrium on Oct 14, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Koscheck vs Alves offical according to Sherdog.com. This will be a great fight, but I gotta think Koscheck is gonna manhandle him but I’ve seen crazier things happen.

by Zack Gobie on Oct 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Expletive!!

This sucks. Maybe Anderson could fight Alves and Cote at the same time for a challenge.

by Ubernoober on Oct 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

geez louise!

What the heck is he doing in that photo?? Looks like something from Saw!

by mythbuster on Oct 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think neck-strengthening

Probably to help submission/guillotine defense, maybe minimize whiplash from punches. Not really sure, but it seemed appropriate. I’ve seen it online for a while now, at least since he was on the undercard at UFC 82. The joke was, “Undercard: Some fighters don’t take it well.”

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Oct 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you sir...

are correct. We used to do them for football…tedious…maddening and uncomfortable. Not sure it ever paid off but I never hurt my neck so I suspect it did.

by banter on Oct 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Scary looking. I have seen when they use the headgear and kind of “bob” with weights. Never seen it around the throat like that. Live and learn lol

by mythbuster on Oct 13, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if Karo is recovered enough to fight Yoshida

That is still an intriguing match.

by Kid Nate on Oct 13, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would prefer to see Mike Swick pulled from his utterly pointless fight with Jon Goulet, and made to be Yoshida’s next victim

by smoogy on Oct 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you are a smart man

I agree wholeheartedly. or…..
Make Karo fight him. He dodged him once, make him figh him now. i heard he is back to training, no more excuses.

by Nick Travaglini on Oct 13, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't say dodged...

I get panic attacks, so if Karo really broke down right before the fight, the he was in no shape to compete, and he has a free pass from me (for what it’s worth).

If he’s lying, however, about something so debilitating, then I nominate him for fighting Fedor in a no-rules match, where Fedor also as a baseball bat.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Oct 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

His story is a hamstring injury

that goes back to him missing the Hughes title fight. He never had it surgically repaired. Joe Rogan talked about it on video a little while back.

by Kid Nate on Oct 13, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I’d much rather see Parisyan/Yoshida than Swick/Yoshida.

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by Richard Wade on Oct 13, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s like rain on your wedding day…

http://mmajunkie.com/news/13010/most-anticipated-ufc-fight-of-october-diego-sanchez-vs-thiago-alves.mma

by Nick Thomas on Oct 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i enjoyed...

how that headline was followed by the Diego injury headline, made me chuckle just a bit.

by midwestbred on Oct 13, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the green light when you're already late

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by lovingmma25 on Oct 14, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This sucks...

I really want to see Sanchez fight GSP and now I’ll have to wait even longer. Although, the Kos replacement will make for an equally exciting fight.

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by mma_dude on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So if Kos wins, he gets GSP again? Yawn.

Just like the Joe Daddy/Florian fight. Winner gets BJ (Ha!). That’s boring to me. There’s a lot of parity in the middle but the top 5 or so guys in each division seem to be setting up potentially boring one sided rematches..

Will anyone beat GSP again? i doubt it. BJ Penn? Probably not. Andeson Silva? Doesn’t look like it. Of course GSP.Penn II will be the exception to the boring rematch, but still.

by lbk on Oct 13, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Will anyone beat GSP again? i doubt it. BJ Penn? Probably not. Andeson Silva? Doesn’t look like it.

Ha.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Oct 13, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He forgot to mention that GSP and BJ And A.Silva will now be store crygenically between fights, living their lives 30 minutes at a time once every 4 months for the next 292,000 years. Seriously, humanity will have bombed itself into extinction while the machines continue to wake up, heal and re-freeze the holy triumvirate of MMA for the joy of the cockroaches.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 14, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs