Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Trent Richardson Interviews Fellow Brown Brandon Weeden

False Narrative

Over at Yahoo, Dave Meltzer warns:

There is a business lesson from pro wrestling over the past few years that UFC should heed. WWE increased from 12 to 16 pay-per-view events, and the results of the overexposure were such that they are cutting back to 14 this year. UFC's current schedule (running major events Dec. 29, Jan. 19 and Feb. 2) is the type of schedule that caused the WWE base audience to begin to pick and choose between events. It's a slippery slope that becomes a difficult rebound. This is not as much a factor to boxing, because few boxing fans buy every show, with most picking and choosing only the big-name fights. UFC, like WWE, sells almost as much on the brand name as the main events, drawing a regular monthly crowd.

I'm not buying this one.  The Ultimate Finale, without any marquee fights and coming off a poor season with poor ratings, did a very good rating opposite Mayweather and Hatton.  Fight Nights also continue to do well.  The only bit of this that indirectly holds water is that by doing more and more shows, UFC is sacraficing overall show quality.  

However, consider this perspective:  I think UFC 81 with Brock Lesnar will do somewhere in the range of 500-600,000 buys, whereas UFC 80 with BJ Penn will probably do 300,000.  If, on the other hand, UFC 80 was scrapped, and Penn/Stevenson was added to 81, I think it would barely make any difference, maybe 50,000 buys at most.  There are diminishing returns.  

The UFC's real problem is its lack of weekly meaningful TV.  Instead of countless reruns of Unleashed where fans can see all main events for free, which is really stupid for business, a weekly fight show out of The Pearl in Vegas with 2 new undercard-ish fights and a bunch of hype for all the upcoming fights on a PPV card would be great for business.  Hopefully that is what they have in mind for 2010, but I wish it was coming sooner.

Comment 8 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Re: False Narrative
I agree with that last paragraph. The big explosion in the WWF audience came when they stopped giving free audiences nothing but third-tier (or worse) sort of fights. Remember when the weekend shows used to be almost entirely populated by some C-list wrester vs. someone whom you had never even heard of?

They began to take off when they offered tantalizing fights to free audiences and used them to hype up mega-fights for PPV.

The nature of UFC (e.g. it being real) makes this harder to do, but I think the general principle applies: they need to offer quality content for free in order to get people hooked in to pay.

But to do so, maybe they need a bigger pool of quality fighters so that they're not burning out good fighters on free shows. And that, I guess, will just take time.

by Chester @ Bloody Elbow on Jan 8, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
Why would you use the latest Fight Night ratings as a counter to Meltzer's bit about Pay Per View saturation?

by MikeyPatriot on Jan 8, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
I will agree that the bit about the TUF finale ratings doesn't say anything about UFC PPV numbers. It does indicate that fans will still tune in for the UFC brand despite strong names but that show was also free and had a reality show to build it up.

Aside from that I think that the WWE PPV numbers declined mostly because the increase in the amount of PPV's meant that each PPV lost it's significance. With the exception of Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, and usually Summerslam, all the other PPV's the WWE offers don't feel as special. One could easily miss them and get almost the same quality product on Raw or Smackdown. You see the same guys wrestle each other and you'll find out the results so little matters from missing it.

With the UFC, the major way they produce their brand is through PPV. The Fight Night shows sell a ton of advertising on Spike and make money but when it comes down to it they fail in comparison to the PPV's. If the UFC was more like the WWE and  say Chuck Liddell could fight once or twice a month and they put that on free TV and only his big matches against other top contenders were put on PPV, those PPVs wouldn't do so well because they already got their fill of Chuck. The UFC uses the Fight Night shows to promote their second tier of talent and TUF alumnus while simultaneously promoting their brand to the masses for free, attracting new fans and potential PPV customers. While you may see a Hendo-Rampage or Ortiz-Shamrock "mega-fight" on free TV once a year, if you want to see such blockbuster fights you'll have to pay.

All in all I don't see the WWE model and the UFC model being the same at this point. While both have historically catered to a similar demographic that doesn't make the business model for the two the same. The only real similarity is that they each sell mainly on their brand name and only a few stars rise up at times that elevate the brand (compare Rock, Austin, HHH, and Cena to Liddell, Ortiz, Couture, and Griffin).

by dropkick101 on Jan 8, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
I agree with the comments. But as a fan, I think I rather see a packed card less often than cards every month where I only care about one or two fights.

Might not be the best business strategy, but it's just my opinion as a fan.

by Fujin on Jan 9, 2008 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
I'd agree with this but considering how many good fights I've seen this year with lesser big names I'm glad that they're putting on more shows.

by pr0cs on Jan 9, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
Agreed. I'm not sure it's an either/or proposition at this point.

by Luke Thomas on Jan 9, 2008 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
Meltzer's over exposure thing isn't just on PPV.  He was predicting a 1.8 for UFC 75, on the basis of the product being overexposed, and it did a 3.1.

The UFC obviously can't and should not copy the current WWE model where stars are on TV weekly.  One of their problems now is that major fights like Couture/Sylvia air free on Spike on Unleashed just a few months after they are live, which is very fan friendly but not smart.  I think a TV program with 2 fights using the kind of guys that are usually on undercards, while dedicating the rest of the show to hyping the upcoming big PPV card, would at least keep people talking about UFC every week.  

by Michael Rome on Jan 9, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

Re: False Narrative
How many people are going to pass up a PPV because they'll see a fight 3 months later?

by MikeyPatriot on Jan 9, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

"I'm working on the intricacies of details of maneuvers that he still doesn't even know the names of." - Frank Mir

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Elty_small
What Every MMA Fan Should Remember
Bv_small
The Top-250 of 2012: BV Wants YOU!
Small
Fedor… The Greatest MMA Fighter of All Time… in a Ring.
Images__2__small
MMA's Cousins: Other Forms of Martial Arts Mixing Striking and Grappling
Enhanced-buzz-7605-1329499488-27_small
Who Here Wants To Buy A Nottheface Ebook? Honestly?

Recent FanPosts

Wario_small
Bellator Prelims Live Thread
Lebowski_excited_grin_small
A Paean to the Korean Zombie, Chan Sung Jung: My New Favorite Fighter
Mkiis_small
K-1 Rising 2012 Now Offered For Free
Chilli_pickle_283g_hot_small
Caption Contest IV
Aldo-crushes-mendes-ufc-142-results_small
Early Pick for FOTN: Volkmann Vs. Sass
Small
Diego Brandao "I kind of like, got this BoOM"

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

MMA Rankings

USA Today / SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings