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How Not to Bet on a MMA Fight

If you've been paying attention to my pre-fight picks you'll notice that I'm pretty careful about what fights I bet on. I always go with the big odds, I always go with the fighters I'm totally confident in and I always hedge my bets.

Just look at my picks for UFC 77 -- aptly titled "The Smart Money Bets for UFC 77" -- it's sheer genius. Every pick won and every pick made sweet money off the oddsmakers -- Tim Sylvia over Brandon Vera at +135, Alvin Robinson over Jorge Gurgel at +135, and sweetest of all Matt Grice over Jason Black at +300. In everyone of those bets I saw something the maddening crowd was missing.

See most chumps make the mistake of betting on the fighter they are more familiar with (hence Gurgel over Robinson), or the fighter they like better (Vera over Sylvia), or the fighter with the better stats on Sherdog (Black over Grice). But not Kid Nate, I takes a cool, dispassionate look at the odds and the matchups and I does my research. So I win money on most every UFC.

My other secret is I don't bet on many fights and I especially don't take bets based on any kind of macho posturing.

Until now. As you may know, Fightlinker has bullied and badgered me into a ridiculous bet that I don't even really think I'll win: Roger Huerta over Clay Guida. And I'm not betting $20, I'm wagering the lovely eyebrows seen in this pic (for the record, I'm not shaving them, I'm removing them but not with a razor). On top of that if I win -- I don't get anything cool -- unless Fightlinker is willing to take the suggestion of BloodyElbow reader MorethantheUFC and recreate the infamous 2 girls one cup video with chocolate icecream. Otherwise he'll be recreating the naked grape shot of UFC ring girl Edith Larente.

So let's review my mistakes:

  1. I talked shit about a fight without really meaning it. Trying to make a point about fighter smacktalk and winning attitudes I overstated my case and said the fatal words "I'm picking Huerta, the guy with the killer instinct."  Fightlinker, being the opportunistic asshole that he is, immediately jumped my shit. I did have the sense to refuse the bet (a point my attorneys will stress when this goes to trial).
  2. I let my emotions take over. Once Fightlinker launched his low-down Thanksgiving attack on my good name and masculinity, I stupidly took the bet. The real man always walks away -- better to look like a wuss now than to lose your eyebrows later. Not being a real man, I accepted -- although not without some changing of the terms.
I hope you can all benefit from this learning opportunity at my expense. Not that all is lost, I give Huerta about 15% chance to win -- either by flash KO or by lame judges decision but Guida is likely to do the lay and pray for the decision, ala Frankie Edgar/Spencer Fisher -- a very similar fight.

In case you missed it you can hear me and Fightlinker going at it on Luke's "Any Given Saturday" show from last night. There's some audible pants wetting I think.

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Re: How Not to Bet on a MMA Fight
Listening to the "Any Given Saturday" show, good stuff.

Here are the Early UFC 79 odds:





by Nick Thomas on Nov 28, 2007 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: How Not to Bet on a MMA Fight
SHIT!  I hope Kid Nate's strength at betting is not tied to those lovely eyebrows, like Samson and his strength.  How will I make rent now?  

Yeah, great show guys.  I wanted to call in, but my hours working hours are vastly different that yours it seems.  I'm in bed now by 9 est.  I got promoted again.  This time to a job that the last two fuckers lasted 2 mons and 4 mons in before they quit or were fired.  Yeah, woohoo, I'm so psyched now......  At least the $$$ is a little better.

by MoreThanUFC on Nov 28, 2007 5:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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I don't think what Fightlinker does constitutes "work"

by Kid Nate on Nov 28, 2007 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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This seems odd to me. You shouldn't give yourself only a 15% chance, honestly. Maybe you are falling back on a tactic I like to use, state that you think your pick will lose, but then end up winning.

To be honest, that matchup is much closer than people give it credit. Guida's standup is NOT great at all. In fact, his most successful flurries are when he can move in on an opponent while he's punching, which doesn't happen often. When Guida tries to initiate blows, he's horribly slow and looping. I feel that Huerta has the big advantage standing. Guida, on the other hand, has some great ground and pound, awesome cardio, and immense power. I think it's definitely a close matchup and could be a war.

Anyone who states that Guida will "wipe the floor" with Huerta is on crack. If it goes the distance, I give it to Guida though. He's too much of a cardio freak to not go, but I would bet on Huerta early if he can catch Guida.

by Leland Roling on Nov 29, 2007 12:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Ah to be honest I'm just fucking around -- the stakes of the bet are freaking me out. Luke gives Guida a 100% chance. I tend to lean more your way but not so much that I'd normally bet my eyebrows on it.

by Kid Nate on Nov 29, 2007 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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I dont think that Guida is a 100% chance, and we all know Luke can get crazy about fighters, especially ones who call into his show...  We are knocking Huerta for reasons not of his doing.  Zuffa decided to pair him up against those cans, not him.  I think some of those guys will be good some day, ie Garcia and Evans, but the rest were just that, cans.  Huerta to me is, at this point, 35%.  If suddenly he rises to the occasion, as he did in rd 2 with Evans, I might start leaning his way.  I'll never be a fan of his though, not in those shorts anyway...

by MoreThanUFC on Nov 29, 2007 4:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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